Re: Long live WPPD 2009!

I really love the 4x5 I've shot with my ZeroImage, and my Polaroid 110a
pinhole camera will have a 4x5 back - I still love film, its feel and
there's a certain "character" with film pinholes that works beautifully
for a lot of things. I auctioned off my Kindle - I'm a very tactile
person and a big part of reading for me is the feel of pages, either
pulpy novels or classic literature on fancy paper. It may be a sign of
my age but I am starting to pigeonhole subjects in photography, and
other experiences, by the experience of the medium.

I had a very low yield with my digital pinhole and zone plate shooting,
until I started thinking about differently than my other pinhole
cameras. I almost never cross processed film images, but I seem to
visualize my digital pinholes in cross-processed type colors and tones.
  For me there's precedent. I never produced a single pinhole image on
photographic paper that I felt was worth more than one look, my black
and white pinhole work makes me yawn. Somehow my eyes seem to see in
the ultrawide 4x5 color transparency forms. (Even my color neg film
pinholes have never measured up to what I saw when I was shooting, but
then again I never was very happy with my traditional camera color
negative film work.)

I think digital pinhole really is something that needs working through
in a way independent of what I learned with film. The more I do with
it, the more I am starting to see digital pinhole and zoneplate images
distinct from film ones.

100 years from now, there will be image makers clinging desperately to
CMOS digital image sensors while the rest of the world is photographing
with some technology we can't even imagine. I'm glad I won't be there,
I'd be more than two generations back.

Ed

George L Smyth wrote:
>> Turning a cheap webcam into a pinhole is a brilliant idea. I've been
> thinking of trying to do a pinhole video that way.
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> Perhaps, but I think that it will depend upon one's style. I've shot hundreds of digital pinhole images with my D70 and have been pleased with, at most, a handful. For what I'm looking for, 4X5 film works best, for others that may not be the case.
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> --- On Mon, 6/2/08, Ed Nazarko <ednaz@attglobal.net> wrote:
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>> From: Ed Nazarko <ednaz@attglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Long live WPPD 2009!
>> To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
>> Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 8:20 PM
>> Turning a cheap webcam into a pinhole is a brilliant idea.
>> I've been
>> thinking of trying to do a pinhole video that way.
>>
>> I've seen a lot of webcams in second hand stores,
>> selling for a couple
>> of dollars at most. No one seems to want older webcams,
>> which suggests
>> that webcams could be the holgas of the digital world...
>>
>> Ana Maria Schultze wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm writing from Brazil, so I can say that Taco is
>> right in some point of view - we really have
>>> many programs that work with poor children, but
>> that't not all.
>>> Here in Brazil, b&w photographic paper, or even
>> film, is not so cheap, so a lot of these
>>> programs don't keep working with pinhole because
>> of the costs.
>>> I really can say that mostly of the brazilians who
>> sent their pinhole pics are entusiastics of the
>>> technic.
>>>
>>> And I agree: digital pinhole would not work with these
>> programs 'cause the same reason:
>>> cost of a digital camera to be turned into a pinhole
>> camera.
>>> I myself do a project in a public school, where we
>> work with photography, and I know how
>>> hard is to buy material (paper, chemics etc.). Anyway
>> I bought with my own money a cheap
>>> webcam who I'm going to turn into a pinhole camera
>> to work with my kids.
>>> I think digital is irreversible, Taco, I'm sorry.
>> :)))
>>> kisses from Brazil
>>>
>>> Ana Maria
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 Jun 2008 at 23:16, Wolfgang Thoma wrote:
>>>
>>>> Murray Leshner wrote:
>>>>> Brazil & US submissions down
>> :Kodak-connection?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we need to campaign for how-to-pinhole
>> with digital?
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>>>> Murray,
>>>> If you regard the brazilian WPPD submissions you
>> can see that most of
>>>> them come from workshops, probably organized by
>> social workers to keep
>>>> kids out of the crime scene. I don't believe
>> that digital would be of
>>>> help here.
>>>> Another point: I -as one of the six WPPD
>> coordinators- was the only one
>>>> to vote against the use of digital cameras for
>> WPPD, but the others
>>>> overruled me. I'm not speaking for the
>> coordination team now but for my
>>>> own: DEAD ON DIGITAL !!!!!
>>>> taco
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