RE: Giclee vs other names

OK...I'll just hope for the best that some consistency
evolves. Call them 'pigment' if they are
pigment-based, call them what they are if not (dye?),
hope that anything you purchase from an artist was
made properly (I've heard some sad stories of people
trying to save money (or just not knowing any better)
and print on 20# bond, etc.

It seems that the increasing ease of access to the
process opens up many areas for unknowing or uncaring
error like assuming particular predicted endurance of
a print technology but using what ever paper and ink
one feels like...I guess this is true with any
process, but it seems all too easy for a naive print
to be made on 20 pound bond paper and the cockled,
blurry result called a giclee. I saw this recently at
an artist's collective project, and I guess it was a
good thing that several artists were unhappy with the
results before trying to sell them.

It amazes me how much variation some 'pros' allow from
one batch of prints to another (say, when printing 10
at a time. Retaining the ink, paper and Photoshop data
didn't accomplish the uniformity alleged. All this is
really only relevant to a buyer/collector I guess,
where consistency and quality is implied and
expected.

If each one comes out differently (intentionally, as
in toning to taste), you could call them 'original
prints', analogous to uniquely inked or hand-colored
intaglio prints.
 

Interestingly, the concept of a 'lower numbered' print
having more value persists among some buyers, so we
sometimes discuss the origin of this and what print
forms it's irrelevant to.

Murray

--- Pinhole Blender <chris@pinholeblender.com> wrote:

> On Inkjetart.com they prefer to call archival inkjet
> print "permanent
> pigment prints"
>
> Chris
> --
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>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Giclee vs other
> names
> > From: Murray Leshner
> <murrayatuptowngallery@yahoo.com>
> > Date: Tue, December 13, 2005 8:10 pm
> > To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
> >
> > I believe the person who asserts to have comeup
> with
> > the term "giclee" is a member of this list, or
> maybe
> > cameramakers; I can't remember, so this is not a
> > personal dig at him...
> >
> > I am curious what other terms are widely accepted
> to
> > refer to this process.
> >
> > Urban legend has it that calling these prints
> inkjet
> > or limiting them to "Iris print" when other
> > manufacturers than "Iris" began making such
> printers,
> > a more 'artsy' name was needed.
> >
> > However, I understand French speakers find the
> term
> > inappropriate because it is a sexual term. Whether
> > impolite or not, the question has been raised in
> some
> > circles, academic and otherwise about a term
> without
> > dual meaning that English speakers can use in all
> > social circumstances without sounding like
> 'rookies'
> > or worse.
> >
> > If there are any French-speakers out there, what
> do
> > YOU recommend?
> >
> > I currently stumble over 'digital archival print'
> but
> > don't hide the fact that they are inkjet also...it
> > would be nice to know if they are pigment, dye,
> > whatever, but it seems that many people don't know
> if
> > they don't make it themself (as is likely in this
> > group, but not among purchasers/collectors).
> >
> > Murray
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