Re: Pinhole Digi-cam

There is a school of digital printing right now that imitates the
brushmarked edges of alt prints - when I was in Australia last year I was
stunned to see that the alt students were being encouraged to make prints to
scan for the edges and add them to their digital repertoire - yuk!!!

Kate----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Gerber" <dgerber@adobe.com>
To: <pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Digi-cam

> Now you're talking about artistic integrity, I would never be satisfied
with
> making "look alikes" of any type of work. The printing I do now is the
type
> Trevor described: digital negatives prited on Pictorio OHP, and contact
> printed in VanDyke or Cyanotype.
>
> -Dan
>
> On 12/10/04 6:46 AM, "Eric" <eric@landguard-manor1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I believe making digital pinhole cameras would make and take the
creativity
> > out I've heard of guys/girls doing salt prints, bromoils etc within
there
> > computers, which we all know are only look alike, DON'T GO THIS WAY
SKILLS
> > WILL BE LOST.
> > Eric M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
> > [mailto:owner-pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org] On Behalf Of Dan Gerber
> > Sent: 09 December 2004 21:24
> > To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Digi-cam
> >
> > No, I can't. Good point. I still use my round film plane pinhole camera,
as
> > well as a few others. The boxes of dusty film cameras comment should
have
> > had the word *lens* in front of it!
> >
> > I can't wait until someone comes up with a flexible, thin digital camera
> > sensor, so I can make bent film(sensor) plane pinhole cameras. For that
> > matter, I can't wait until you can just buy a sensor, and out it in a
> > homemade camera.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> >
> > On 12/9/04 2:29 PM, "Pinhole Blender" <chris@pinholeblender.com> wrote:
> >
> >> But can you bend that sensor around a tube like you can with film or
> >> paper. Maybe it can satisfy those who use flat film planes but I like
> >> to bend things a bit or overlap exposures or make really wide angle
> >> cameras. If I had a SLR digital I would surely use it for pinhole but I
> >> wouldn't let dust accumulate on my film cameras, they have too much
> >> flexibility to offer.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >> --
> >> Pinhole Blender
> >> chris@pinholeblender.com
> >> http://www.pinholeblender.com
> >>
> >>
> >>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Digi-cam
> >>> From: "Dan Gerber" <dgerber@adobe.com>
> >>> Date: Thu, December 09, 2004 2:45 pm
> >>> To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
> >>>
> >>> I've also been using a pinhole body cap on my Canon EOS 10D. I can
> >>> wholeheartedly second the dust problem! On the other hand, it is a
good
> > way
> >>> to see how dirty your sensor is! I don't feel any guilt as a result,
> >>> everything is just a tool to express our ideas, nothing more. Digital
> > means
> >>> of capture and manipulation are just as relevant as analog processes,
and
> >>> allow a lot of people to produce interesting work who otherwise might
not
> >>> have if they were locked into traditional processes.
> >>>
> >>> I'll admit, my boxes of film cameras is getting a pretty thick coating
of
> >>> dust on it, but I simply haven't found a reason to go back to using
film
> > for
> >>> the past 2 years.
> >>>
> >>> -Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/9/04 1:14 PM, "Howard Wells" <sandwell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've mounted pinholes on Nikon digital SLRs to good effect. The only
> > major
> >>>> problem is that the great depth of field of the tiny aperture causes
any
> >>>> grit or dust on the low-pass filter to become a prominent and
unwanted
> >>>> feature in the image. Dust and grit that does not show up in normal
> > lensed
> >>>> usage. Converting a digi-cam to pinhole might avoid the problem.
Other
> > than
> >>>> that they are great for pinhole, offering the instant feedback I love
so
> >>>> much with Polaroid without reciprocity effects.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, it does inject an element of guilt into the process, at
least
> > for
> >>>> me, that my film box polaroids and other pinhole cameras don't
produce.
> > I'm
> >>>> not a Luddite and the image is still being formed through a pinhole
but.
> > . .
> >>>>
> >>>> Peace and Happy Holidays,
> >>>>
> >>>> Howard Wells
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> [Original Message]
> >>>>> From: Doug Holt <mancer@verizon.net>
> >>>>> To: <pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org>
> >>>>> Date: 12/9/2004 1:31:15 PM
> >>>>> Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] anti-newton ring glass
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Always more than one way to skin a cat... not that I ever wanted a
> >>>> skinned
> >>>>> cat around.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm thinking the best thing to do is go to an all digital pinhole.
I
> >>>> wonder
> >>>>> if anyone on this list has converted a digi-camera yet?
> >>>>
> >>>> --- Howard Wells
> >>>> --- sandwell@earthlink.net
> >>>> --- hwells@artacademy.edu
> >>>> --- home.earthlink.net/~sandwell
> >>>> --- http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hiw3/my_photos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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