pinhole-discussion:: RE: sheet film v. ortho film

From: andy schmitt <aschmitt_at_domain.name.suppressed>
Date: Sat 29 May 2004 - 06:21:12 PDT

wow
try Home Depot or Sears for the freezer... find out where the defrost coils
are & keep the film away from them , it actually warms up a bunch to get the
frost off the surface w/o unfreezing the food...
i'm off to nyc w/ wifie but i'll give your offer some serious thought!
thanks & have a safe & happy holiday weekend
andy

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
[mailto:owner-pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org]On Behalf Of George L
Smyth
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 4:50 PM
To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film

andy -

Storage is the key. I actually received much more than I mentioned, but
some of it was bad. Exceptionally strange and not understood by me - for
the most part, the "regular" film was good and the ortho film was fogged.
My friend kept everything in a freezer for years, and unbeknownst to him, at
some point in time the freezer gave up the ghost. Some stuff was obviously
no good (Kodak Mechanical Film - never heard of it - Expires June 1969 <g>),
but my testing showed that the TMax and Ilford sheet film is just fine, but
the ortho (with the exception of what I mentioned) was somewhat to
unacceptably fogged. I have no clue as to why this would be the case - he
told me that he stored everything together. I would have thought the exact
opposite would have been the case.

I now have the B&W film in the freezer (he gave me about 500' of Velvia and
about 50 rolls of assorted chome film) and am trying to figure out how to
store the rest. I have not tossed the idea of buying an apartment-sized
refrigerator (I would buy a small freezer of that size, if I knew where to
get one).

BTW, if anyone wants a box or two of the partially fogged stuff (should be
good for non-critical and experimental mussings), send me a note
(GLSmyth@Yahoo.com). I have two 4X5" boxes of Kodak Ortho and four boxes of
4X5" Duplicating film. I've also got a 100' roll of 35mm Kodak ortho which
I have not tested for giveaway. I will pay the shipping if the recipient
promises to send me a small print made from the film (or a note saying that
it was no good).

Cheers -

george

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--- On Fri 05/28, Andy - Warwick < aschmitt@warwick.net > wrote:
From: Andy - Warwick [mailto: aschmitt@warwick.net]
To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 07:00:09 -0400
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film

it's tough to be rich... 8o) now all you have to do is store it good
for you ! andy -----Original Message----- From:
owner-pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org [mailto:owner-pinhole-discussion@sp
itbite.org]On Behalf Of George L Smyth Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004
8:42 PM To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org Subject: RE:
[pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho
film Gord - You are right - cost is indeed a factor.
I've got a roll of 9.5"X100' ortho film and just the other day received
another roll of something rather similar from a friend who is going
digital (he also gave me several hundred sheets of 4X5, about 600 rolls
of film, and a stack of paper about four feet high - I am set for life
<g>). The nice thing with working with inexpensive materials is that
it allows one to do a bit more experimenting than would be the case with
cost considerations. Cheers - george ----- http:/
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ww.GLSmyth.com http://DRiPInvesting.org --- On Wed 05/26, Gordon
J. Holtslander < holtsg@duke.usask.ca > wrote: From: Gordon J.
Holtslander [mailto: holtsg@duke.usask.ca] To:
pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org Date: Tue, 25 May 2004
22:46:14 -0600 Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho
film Hi: Excuse the very late reply. I use ortho film
because its available in very large sizes. I use 8x10 and occasionaly
12 x18.(inches) This lets me do nice big contact prints - which works
very well with the alternative printing processes I use. Comes in
rolls to. If I ever get a few days in a row free I want to
build something like an 10 by 14 inch roll film
camera. Conventional film this size is prohibitively expensive.
Ortho is at least 1/4 the cost. Gord On Wed, 5 May 2004,
George L Smyth wrote: > > Brad - > > "Regular" sheet film
has the advantage<b!
r>of rendering the scene properly, whereas ortho film will not
properly reproduce the reds and oranges. OTOH, ortho film can be handles
with the darkroom lights on and is less expensive than panchromatic
film. > > Personally, I use panchromatic film when shooting in the
4X5 size, but when I increase to a larger size I go with orthochromatic
film, prima! rily because of the cost. With ortho film in the larger
sizes you will not need any special equipment, as you can just use the
pans you use to process your paper. > > BTW, if you do go the ortho
route, toss the development instructions you get from the box. Ortho
film is meant to be developed to black/clear with no gray gradations.
I've used dilute Dektol (1+10 - 1+20) and Rodinal with success, and there
are numerous formulas out there that will work just fine. > >
Cheers - > > george > > ----- >
http://www.GLSmyth.com > http://DRiPInvesting.org >!
 > --- On Sun 05/02, brad isaacs < p_bateman27@yahoo.ca > wrote: >
From: brad isaacs [mailto: p_bateman27@yahoo.ca] > To:
pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org > Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 11:47:11 -0400
(EDT) > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho
film > > hi, regarding my last post regarding sheet film
developing tanks, my real dilemma is whether i should go
into<! br>working with sheet film or ortho film. they both seem to
have their pros and cons but i don't have the experience to really
know. ortho film would be very easy to cut, load and process but is
more difficult to get. sheet film is easy to get but a little
more complicated to use, plus i'd need to get a tank. would one
produce better images than the other? i guess that would be my
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