pinhole-discussion:: RE: sheet film v. ortho film

From: George L Smyth <glsmyth_at_domain.name.suppressed>
Date: Fri 28 May 2004 - 19:55:24 PDT

Chris -

Good to hear form you. I had thought of that (never done it, not sure how), but it looks like I do have enough film to last quite some time (I've also got 500' of Tech Pan - gave away another roll of 500' to a place on the Eastern Shore that teaches pinhole to kids - and 2 400' rolls of Kodak Infrared).

BTW, I've got some Portrigo film and a line on a pigment printer, so I will probably be able to start trying to work with digital negatives sometime soon.

Cheers -

george

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--- On Fri 05/28, Pinhole Blender < chris@pinholeblender.com > wrote:
From: Pinhole Blender [mailto: chris@pinholeblender.com]
To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:40:50 -0700
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film

George, Have you ever tried an anti fog solution in your developer like Edwals Antifog. Its basiclly a chemical named Benzotriazole. Its helped me salvage old film in the past. It sounds like you have too much film to even try it. If your interested I have some in my lab, let me know if you need any. Chris -- Pinhole Blender chris_at_pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film > From: "George L Smyth" <glsmyth_at_myway.com> > Date: Fri, May 28, 2004 1:50 pm > To: pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org > > andy - > > Storage is the key. I actually received much more than I mentioned, > but some of it was bad. Exceptionally strange and not understood by me > - for the most part, the "regular" film was good and the ortho film was > fogged. My friend kept everything in a freezer for years, and > unbeknownst to him, at some point in time
the freezer gave up the > ghost. Some stuff was obviously no good (Kodak Mechanical Film - never > heard of it - Expires June 1969 <g>), but my testing showed that the > TMax and Ilford sheet film is just fine, but the ortho (with the > exception of what I mentioned) was somewhat to unacceptably fogged. I > have no clue as to why this would be the case - he told me that he > stored everything together. I would have thought the exact opposite > would have been the case. > > I now have the B&W film in the freezer (he gave me about 500' of Velvia > and about 50 rolls of assorted chome film) and am trying to figure out > how to store the rest. I have not tossed the idea of buying an > apartment-sized refrigerator (I would buy a small freezer of that size, > if I knew where to get one). > > BTW, if anyone wants a box or two of the partially fogged stuff (should > be good for non-critical and experimental mussings), send me a note > (GLSmyth@Yahoo.com). I h
ave two 4X5" boxes of Kodak Ortho and four > boxes of 4X5" Duplicating film. I've also got a 100' roll of 35mm > Kodak ortho which I have not tested for giveaway. I will pay the > shipping if the recipient promises to send me a small print made from > the film (or a note saying that it was no good). > > Cheers - > > george > > ----- > http://www.GLSmyth.com > http://DRiPInvesting.org > > --- On Fri 05/28, Andy - Warwick < aschmitt_at_warwick.net > wrote: > From: Andy - Warwick [mailto: aschmitt_at_warwick.net] > To: pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org > Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 07:00:09 -0400 > Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film > > it's tough to be rich... 8o) now all you have to do is store > it good for you ! andy -----Original Message----- From: > owner-pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org [mailto:owner-pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org]On > Behalf Of George L Smyth Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8
:42 > PM To: pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org Subject: RE: > [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film Gord > - You are right - cost is indeed a factor. I've got a roll of > 9.5"X100' ortho film and just the other day received another roll of > something rather similar from a friend who is going digital (he also > gave me several hundred sheets of 4X5, about 600 rolls of film, and > a stack of paper about four feet high - I am set for life > <g>). The nice thing with working with inexpensive materials is > that it allows one to do a bit more experimenting than would be the > case with cost considerations. Cheers > - george ----- http://w! > ww.GLSmyth.com http://DRiPInvesting.org --- On Wed 05/26, > Gordon J. Holtslander < holtsg_at_duke.usask.ca > wrote: From: Gordon > J. Holtslander [mailto: holtsg_at_duke.usask.ca] To: > pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org Date: Tue, 25 M
ay 2
004 22:46:14 > -0600 Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho > film Hi: Excuse the very late reply. I use ortho > film because its available in very large sizes. I use 8x10 and > occasionaly 12 x18.(inches) This lets me do nice big contact prints > - which works very well with the alternative printing processes I > use. Comes in rolls to. If I ever get a few days in a row > free I want to build something like an 10 by 14 inch roll film > camera. Conventional film this size is prohibitively > expensive. Ortho is at least 1/4 the cost. Gord On > Wed, 5 May 2004, George L Smyth wrote: > > Brad > - > > "Regular" sheet film has the advantage<b! > r>of rendering the scene properly, whereas ortho film will not > properly reproduce the reds and oranges. OTOH, ortho film can be > handles with the darkroom lights on and is less expensive than > pa
nchromatic film. > > Personally, I use panchromatic film > when shooting in the 4X5 size, but when I increase to a larger size > I go with orthochromatic film, prima! rily because of the cost. > With ortho film in the larger sizes you will not need any special > equipment, as you can just use the pans you use to process your > paper. > > BTW, if you do go the ortho route, toss > the development instructions you get from the box. Ortho film is > meant to be developed to black/clear with no gray gradations. I've > used dilute Dektol (1+10 - 1+20) and Rodinal with success, and there > are numerous formulas out there that will work just fine. > > > Cheers - > > george > > ----- > > http://www.GLSmyth.com > http://DRiPInvesting.org >! > > --- On Sun 05/02, brad isaacs < p_bateman27_at_yahoo.ca > > wrote: > From: brad isaacs [mailto: p_bateman27_at_yahoo.ca] > > To: pinhole-discussion_at_spi
tbite.org > Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 > 11:47:11 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film > v. ortho film > > hi, regarding my last post regarding > sheet film developing tanks, my real dilemma is whether i should > go into<! br>working with sheet film or ortho film. they both > seem to have their pros and cons but i don't have > the experience to really know. ortho film would be very easy > to cut, load and process but is more difficult to get. sheet film > is easy to get but a little more complicated to use, plus i'd > need to get a tank. would one produce better images than the > other? i guess that would be my > deciding factor... brad ________________________________________________________________ ______ > Post your ! > free ad > now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _______________________________________________ Post > to the
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