RE: sheet film v. ortho film

From: George L Smyth <glsmyth_at_domain.name.suppressed>
Date: Fri 28 May 2004 - 13:50:10 PDT

andy -

Storage is the key. I actually received much more than I mentioned, but some of it was bad. Exceptionally strange and not understood by me - for the most part, the "regular" film was good and the ortho film was fogged. My friend kept everything in a freezer for years, and unbeknownst to him, at some point in time the freezer gave up the ghost. Some stuff was obviously no good (Kodak Mechanical Film - never heard of it - Expires June 1969 <g>), but my testing showed that the TMax and Ilford sheet film is just fine, but the ortho (with the exception of what I mentioned) was somewhat to unacceptably fogged. I have no clue as to why this would be the case - he told me that he stored everything together. I would have thought the exact opposite would have been the case.

I now have the B&W film in the freezer (he gave me about 500' of Velvia and about 50 rolls of assorted chome film) and am trying to figure out how to store the rest. I have not tossed the idea of buying an apartment-sized refrigerator (I would buy a small freezer of that size, if I knew where to get one).

BTW, if anyone wants a box or two of the partially fogged stuff (should be good for non-critical and experimental mussings), send me a note (GLSmyth@Yahoo.com). I have two 4X5" boxes of Kodak Ortho and four boxes of 4X5" Duplicating film. I've also got a 100' roll of 35mm Kodak ortho which I have not tested for giveaway. I will pay the shipping if the recipient promises to send me a small print made from the film (or a note saying that it was no good).

Cheers -

george

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 --- On Fri 05/28, Andy - Warwick < aschmitt@warwick.net > wrote:
From: Andy - Warwick [mailto: aschmitt@warwick.net]
To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 07:00:09 -0400
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film

it's tough to be rich... 8o)<br>now all you have to do is store it<br>good for you !<br>andy<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: owner-pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org<br>[mailto:owner-pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org]On Behalf Of George L<br>Smyth<br>Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:42 PM<br>To: pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org<br>Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film<br><br><br><br>Gord -<br><br>You are right - cost is indeed a factor. I've got a roll of 9.5"X100' ortho<br>film and just the other day received another roll of something rather<br>similar from a friend who is going digital (he also gave me several hundred<br>sheets of 4X5, about 600 rolls of film, and a stack of paper about four feet<br>high - I am set for life <g>).<br><br>The nice thing with working with inexpensive materials is that it allows one<br>to do a bit more experimenting than would be the case with cost<br>considerations.<br><br>Cheers -<br><br>george<br><br>-----<br>http://www.GLSmyth.com<br>http://DRiPInv
esting.org<br><br> --- On Wed 05/26, Gordon J. Holtslander < holtsg@duke.usask.ca > wrote:<br>From: Gordon J. Holtslander [mailto: holtsg@duke.usask.ca]<br>To: pinhole-discussion@spitbite.org<br>Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:46:14 -0600<br>Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] sheet film v. ortho film<br><br>Hi:<br><br>Excuse the very late reply.<br><br>I use ortho film because its<br>available in very large sizes. I use 8x10<br>and occasionaly 12<br>x18.(inches) This lets me do nice big contact prints -<br>which works very<br>well with the alternative printing processes I use.<br><br>Comes in rolls<br>to. If I ever get a few days in a row free I want to build<br>something<br>like an 10 by 14 inch roll film camera.<br><br>Conventional film this size<br>is prohibitively expensive. Ortho is at least<br>1/4 the<br>cost.<br><br>Gord<br><br>On Wed, 5 May 2004, George L Smyth<br>wrote:<br><br>><br>> Brad -<br>><br>> "Regular" sheet film has the advantage<br>of rendering the scene properly, whereas ortho film will not p
roperly<br>reproduce the reds and oranges. OTOH, ortho film can be handles with the<br>darkroom lights on and is less expensive than panchromatic film.<br>><br>><br>Personally, I use panchromatic film when shooting in the 4X5 size, but when<br>I increase to a larger size I go with orthochromatic film, prima!<br>rily because of the cost. With ortho film in the larger sizes you will not<br>need any special equipment, as you can just use the pans you use to process<br>your paper.<br>><br>> BTW, if you do go the ortho route, toss the<br>development instructions you get from the box. Ortho film is meant to be<br>developed to black/clear with no gray gradations. I've used dilute Dektol<br>(1+10 - 1+20) and Rodinal with success, and there are numerous formulas out<br>there that will work just fine.<br>><br>> Cheers -<br>><br>><br>george<br>><br>> -----<br>> http://www.GLSmyth.com<br>><br>http://DRiPInvesting.org<br>><br>> --- On Sun 05/02, brad isaacs <<br>p_bateman27_at_yahoo.ca > wrote:<br>> From: brad isaacs [
mailto:<br>p_bateman27_at_yahoo.ca]<br>> To: pinhole-discussion_at_spitbite.org<br>> Date:<br>Sun, 2 May 2004 11:47:11 -0400 (EDT)<br>> Subject: [pinhole-discussion]<br>sheet film v. ortho film<br>><br>> hi,<br><br>regarding my last post<br>regarding sheet film developing<br>tanks, my real dilemma is whether i<br>should go into<!<br>br>working with sheet film or ortho film. they both seem<br>to have their<br>pros and cons but i don't have the<br>experience to really know. ortho film<br>would be very<br>easy to cut, load and process but is more difficult<br>to<br>get. sheet film is easy to get but a little more<br>complicated to<br>use, plus i'd need to get a tank. would<br>one produce better images than<br>the other? i guess that<br>would be my deciding<br>factor...<br><br>brad<br><br><br><br><br><br>________________________________________________________________<br>______ <br>Post your free ad now!<br>http://personals.yahoo.ca<br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Post to the list as PLAIN TE
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