Holga with a rangefinder?
I don't think so.
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>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:19:06 -0400
>From: Kate Hudec <hudec@rcn.com>
>To: Pinhole Discussion <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Subject: [pinhole-discussion] camera body for zone plate
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>I've been using a converted Lubitel camera for my studio based zone
>plate work. I like the camera, but its layout is causing me some
>trouble. It's great having a viewing lens, but the placement of the
>viewfinder on top is inconvenient given my lighting set-ups. I often
>find myself check to jowl with a blazing quartz light. Also, having to
>unscrew the camera from the tripod every time I need to change film is
>annoying.
>
>I'm looking for another cheap medium format camera to convert to zone
>plate -- preferably one with a rangefinder style viewfinder on the
>back. I've heard that the Agfa Sporti is a possible candidate. Does
>anyone know what the focal length of this camera is? Any other cameras
>come to mind? Thanks.
>
>
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>From: "Ray Esposito" <brassring@brassring.org>
>To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing tanks/pinhole cam [was paper
>negative tricks]
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:43:11 -0400
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>Jim - check is in the mail - Ray
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> > Ray,
> > the prices are on the page with the ordering info,
> > the Merlin XD's price is $34
> > sorry you missed it...
> > Jim
> > Many thanks,
> > Jim Kosinski
> >
> > Starlight Cameras
> > PO Box 540
> > Cherry Valley NY 13320 usa
> >
> > Merlin pinhole cameras & darkroom kits
> > www.paintcancamera.com
> > 607-264-3480
> >
>
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> > Ray,
> > the prices are on the page with the ordering info,
> > the Merlin XD's price is $34
> > sorry you missed it...
> > Jim
> > Many thanks,
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> >
> > Starlight Cameras
> > PO Box 540
> > Cherry Valley NY 13320 usa
> >
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>From: "Ray Esposito" <brassring@brassring.org>
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>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] business on list
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:10:59 -0400
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>Jim - no offense taken. I should have known better. The excitement
>got the better of me. Apologies to all. Jim is correct.
>Ray
>
>
>
> > No offense to anyone, but I'm not comfortable discussing
> > business on the list - it should remain commercial free! In
> > the future please contact me directly about orders and such.
> > Many thanks,
> > Jim Kosinski
> >
> > Starlight Cameras
> > PO Box 540
> > Cherry Valley NY 13320 usa
> >
> > Merlin pinhole cameras & darkroom kits
> > www.paintcancamera.com
> > 607-264-3480
> >
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 07:52:07 -0700 (PDT)
>From: D Hill <zoppa29@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] camera body for zone plate
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> Kate,
>An easy and inexpensive camera to convert would be the Holga, it has the
>rangefinder but you would be limited in shutter speed control. - one
>speed, no time or bulb settings.
>Another easy camera to convert would be an older Agfa Isolette or
>Jsolette. It's a 6x6 120 camera with a viewing window above the camera
>lens, technically a rangefinder but without split image focus. Ebay
>prices are anywhere from 30 - 80 on these. The lens is easily removed
>from the shutter, and the shutter has a few speeds plus bulb. If I
>recall correctly, it has a similar focal length to the Lubitel, but the
>lens is on a bellows which folds into the body. A rather nice design,
>actually. If you are interested, I have an older Jsolette I was going to
>list on Ebay, contact me off-list if you are interested in it.
>Don
> Kate Hudec <hudec@rcn.com> wrote: I've been using a converted Lubitel
> camera for my studio based zone
>plate work. I like the camera, but its layout is causing me some
>trouble. It's great having a viewing lens, but the placement of the
>viewfinder on top is inconvenient given my lighting set-ups. I often
>find myself check to jowl with a blazing quartz light. Also, having to
>unscrew the camera from the tripod every time I need to change film is
>annoying.
>
>I'm looking for another cheap medium format camera to convert to zone
>plate -- preferably one with a rangefinder style viewfinder on the
>back. I've heard that the Agfa Sporti is a possible candidate. Does
>anyone know what the focal length of this camera is? Any other cameras
>come to mind? Thanks.
>
>
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><P> Kate,
><P>An easy and inexpensive camera to convert would be the Holga, it has
>the rangefinder but you would be limited in shutter speed control. - one
>speed, no time or bulb settings.
><P>Another easy camera to convert would be an older Agfa Isolette or
>Jsolette. It's a 6x6 120 camera with a viewing window above the
>camera lens, technically a rangefinder but without split image
>focus. Ebay prices are anywhere from 30 - 80 on these. The
>lens is easily removed from the shutter, and the shutter has a
>few speeds plus bulb. If I recall correctly, it has a similar focal
>length to the Lubitel, but the lens is on a bellows which folds into the
>body. A rather nice design, actually. If you are interested, I
>have an older Jsolette I was going to list on Ebay, contact me off-list if
>you are interested in it.
><P>Don
><P> <B><I>Kate Hudec <hudec@rcn.com></I></B> wrote:
><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
>#1010ff 2px solid">I've been using a converted Lubitel camera for my
>studio based zone<BR>plate work. I like the camera, but its layout is
>causing me some<BR>trouble. It's great having a viewing lens, but the
>placement of the<BR>viewfinder on top is inconvenient given my lighting
>set-ups. I often<BR>find myself check to jowl with a blazing quartz light.
>Also, having to<BR>unscrew the camera from the tripod every time I need to
>change film is<BR>annoying.<BR><BR>I'm looking for another cheap medium
>format camera to convert to zone<BR>plate -- preferably one with a
>rangefinder style viewfinder on the<BR>back. I've heard that the Agfa
>Sporti is a possible candidate. Does<BR>anyone know what the focal length
>of this camera is? Any other cameras<BR>come to mind?
>Thanks.<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Post
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>From: "G.Penate" <penate@rogers.com>
>To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] business on list
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:46:23 -0400
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ray Esposito" <brassring@brassring.org>
>
>
> > Jim - no offense taken. I should have known better. The excitement
> > got the better of me. Apologies to all. Jim is correct.
>
>Sure he is, that's why his yesterday message to you should have been sent
>directly to you and not to the list, had Jim done that, your replay would have
>gone directly to Jim and not to the list.
>
>BTW, I don't mind "commercials" from list members. Like when someone is
>auctioning something at eBay or when Jim, tell us about a new pinhole
>camera he
>is announcing or even if Zernike were to tell us about a new product, too. I
>take that as information rather than as advertising.
>
>Guillermo
>
>
>
>
>
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>From: "laurence docherty" <stimpy106@hotmail.com>
>To: Pinhole-Discussion@pinhole.com
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:53:04 +0000
>Subject: [pinhole-discussion] hello !!
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>
>hello people my name is laurence i've just joined the pinhole discussion
>board.Im 20 years old, i.ve been doing photography now for about three
>years with my dads support, when he gave me his olimpus om2n and for the
>last year and a half i've been taking pinhole pictures which i love
>taking from the not knowing how the picture is quite going to come out, to
>even the way people look at a you in the street and even ask what your
>doing and i cant wait for pinhole day by the way is there anything
>happening in the south of england ? like workshops or gatherings?
>
>anyway take care fellow pinholers!!!
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>From: "Tom Miller" <twmiller@mr.net>
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>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] hello !! and Workshops
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:23:05 -0500
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
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>Hi Laurence,
>
>Welcome to the discussion group! And a delightful Pinhole Day to you
>(in advance of the big day).
>
>Check the Related Events listing at
>http://www.pinholeday.org/participate/events.php. Click on the
>dropdown where it says "ALL countries" and select United Kingdom from
>the list. Click the GO button and you'll find what's happening
>nearby. It looks like there are future workshops in Bristol, Lincoln
>and Worcester, all by well known pinholer photographers. There is
>also a pinhole portrait event taking place in Bury St. Edmunds.
>
>Hopefully one of these events is near you. Keep checking, too. New
>events will be added to the list as soon as we are aware of them.
>
>For others on the list: this geographic search capability can help you
>find a workshop in your country, state or city. And this bears
>repeating: the WPPD 2002 online exhibit will offer a similar search
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>hello people my name is laurence i've just joined the pinhole discussion
>board.Im 20 years old, i.ve been doing photography now for about three
>years with my dads support, when he gave me his olimpus om2n and for the
>last year and a half i've been taking pinhole pictures which i love
>taking from the not knowing how the picture is quite going to come out, to
>even the way people look at a you in the street and even ask what your
>doing and i cant wait for pinhole day by the way is there anything
>happening in the south of england ? like workshops or gatherings?
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>Hi all,
>
>I'm looking for folks in the Indiana, Kentucky, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan
>area who might want to get together on the 28th to celebrate Worldwide
>Pinhole Photography Day. It might be difficult to find a place that we
>could all live with, but it might be worth a try. If your out there let
>me know what you think.
>
>James
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