What i meant was as close as i can get to small things, thus making them
larger. When you work at less than the "focal length" of the pinhole, the
image is sometimes more fuzzy. my closest closeup was with a camera I made
by drilling out the lens and shutter, then putting on a pinhole. I took a
"closeup" of a dead fly on w indow sill. The fly was in focus, the tree a
hundred feet waway waqs in focus, and a piece of the shutter spring inside
the camera was in focus.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ROGER ARMOUR" <roger@rharmour.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:09 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #564 - 8
msgs
> Subject : Ultra closeup photography.
> Bill Erickson in replying to Rachel Mallon's questionnaire mentioned ultra
> closeup pinhole photography. Please tell me what this means. What subject,
> how close, and how is it illuminated? I experimented with photographing a
> coin at diminishing distances obtaining magnifications of 20X and more at
> 1cm with a 0.16 mm pinhole. Lighting became a problem and the image became
> blurred.
> Roger
>
>
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> > 3. Re: New Year print swap (Richard Heather)
> > 4. Re: developing ortho (holtsg@duke.usask.ca)
> > 5. Re: Will paper work in 4x5 film holder? (Joao Ribeiro)
> > 6. Re: developing ortho (George L Smyth)
> > 7. Re: developing ortho (Joao Ribeiro)
> > 8. Re: developing ortho (Joao Ribeiro)
> >
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> > From: "Bill Erickson" <erickson@hickorytech.net>
> > To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hello all you pin-holers out there!! I
> need your help!
> > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:47:15 -0600
> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
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> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: Rachel Mallon=20
> > To: Pinhole-Discussion@pinhole.com=20
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:25 PM
> > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Hello all you pin-holers out there!! I =
> > need your help!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello all you pin-hole photographers out there!
> >
> > My name is Rachel Mallon and I am a student at the Surrey Institute of
=
> > Art & Design in Epsom, Surrey England. I am in my final year of a degree
=
> > in Fashion Promotion & Illustration BA Hons and as part of my final =
> > project work I have to hold a presentation on an area of disscussion of
=
> > my choice. I have just taken up the medium of pin-hole photography and I
=
> > am investigating its photographic possibilities, so I thought it would =
> > therefore be appropriate to do my presentation on this photographic =
> > form.
> > This is where I hope you may be able to help me by giving me your =
> > opinions and reasons of interest behind why you use pin-hole, and how =
> > you feel about it re-emerging as a photographic area of interest.
> >
> > What follows is a series of questions about pin-hole and if you have a
=
> > moment I would greatly appreciate your views.
> >
> > THE PIN_HOLE QUESTIONNAIRE
> >
> > 1 Name: Bill Erickson =20
> >
> > 2 Age: 66
> >
> > 3 Occupation: physician
> >
> > 4 How did you get into pin-hole photography? Got interested after =
> > buying a 4x5 view camera, realised this was something i could experiment
=
> > with, read eric renner's book.=20
> >
> > 5 What camera/s do you use? Mostly I make my own. I try to make a =
> > distinction between ordinary phtography using a pin hole instead of a =
> > lens and "pinhole photography", those types of images and approaches =
> > that are only possible with a pinhole.=20
> >
> > 6 What type of pin-hole photographs do you like to take? Experiements
=
> > with ultra wide angle, ultra closeup, ultra long exposures, placement of
=
> > the film at odd angles to the aperture, using naturally occuring =
> > apertures. I did a very successful series of images using one of the =
> > holes in a soda cracker as a pinhole.=20
> >
> > 7 How long have you been using pin-hole? about 4 years.
> >
> > 8 Do you use it commercially or purely for enjoyment or both? Just for
=
> > me.
> >
> > 9 Why do you prefer this format to other more conventional photography
=
> > formats? There is less apparatus between me and the image, and my =
> > decisions are more central to the process rather than being at the mercy
=
> > of lenses, shutters, etc.
> >
> > 10 Why do you feel the revival of pin-hole in the mid 1960s happened?
=
> > Don't know. Where you a part of this movement? No.
> >
> > 11 Do you feel the attraction with pin-hole is an artistic desire to =
> > get back to basics, and have more control over a photo? Yes. It's a =
> > dramatically more 'personal" art.
> >
> > 12 Do you feel you are re-inventing creativity by going back to the =
> > first camera and using it in a new way? No.=20
> >
> > 13 Do you feel this movement towards pin-hole in photography may be =
> > happening because of the move into digital i.e Because we seem to be =
> > offered with digital "infinite possibilities" and a predictable, =
> > efficient result, and pin-hole offers a much more unexpected and =
> > original result? I don't think so. More and more pinhole shooters are =
> > printing digitally, including me. =20
> >
> > 14 What do you feel about the move into digital technology in =
> > photography that is inevitably happening? Do you feel it breaks barriers
=
> > or creates them? for me, it makes "darkroom" work so much easier. I =
> > never drop a negative on the floor, I can always replicate a print. I =
> > can quit at any point in time. I did color printing for several years, =
> > and it was a grueling discipline. if i had to print something =
> > complicated or critical, I got up at 4:30 in order to be fresh and not =
> > distratcted. I had to quit whenever I started making mistakes because =
> > it was only going to get worse, etc.=20
> >
> > 15 In a few words describe why you love pin-hole.... My images are a =
> > more immediate expression of my wishes. there is almost nothing between
=
> > me and an image. With the cracker series, all I had was a cardboard box
=
> > with a piece of photographic paper taped inside and a cracker stuck over
=
> > a hole on the other side with peanut butter, and light. And yet I could
=
> > make art. With pinhole, I never ask light to do anything it wouldn't do
=
> > spontaneously. =20
> >
> >
> >
> > If you have any further advice on pin-hole information in areas not =
> > covered by my questions I would appreciate any extra view points you may
=
> > be able to pass on.
> >
> > THANKYOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING PART IN MY WORK. IT IS MUCH APPRECIATED
=
> > & I VALUE YOUR THOUGHTS & OPINIONS. Rachel Mallon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Hello all=20
> > you pin-holers out there!! I need your help!</DIV>
> > <DIV><BR></DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <P><BR><BR></P>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P><BR><BR></P></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV></DIV>
> > <P>Hello all you pin-hole photographers out there!</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>My name is Rachel Mallon and I am a student at the Surrey =
> > Institute of=20
> > Art & Design in Epsom, Surrey England. I am in my final year of a
=
> > degree=20
> > in Fashion Promotion & Illustration BA Hons and as part of my =
> > final=20
> > project work I have to hold a presentation on an area of disscussion =
> > of my=20
> > choice. I have just taken up the medium of pin-hole photography and I
=
> > am=20
> > investigating its photographic possibilities, so I thought it would =
> > therefore=20
> > be appropriate to do my presentation on this photographic =
> > form.<BR>This is=20
> > where I hope you may be able to help me by giving me your opinions and
=
> > reasons=20
> > of interest behind why you use pin-hole, and how you feel about it =
> > re-emerging=20
> > as a photographic area of interest.</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>What follows is a series of questions about pin-hole and if you =
> > have a=20
> > moment I would greatly appreciate your views.</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>THE PIN_HOLE QUESTIONNAIRE</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>1 Name: Bill Erickson </P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>2 Age: 66</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>3 Occupation: physician</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>4 How did you get into pin-hole photography? Got interested after =
> > buying a=20
> > 4x5 view camera, realised this was something i could =
> > experiment with,=20
> > read eric renner's book. </P>
> > <P>5 What camera/s do you use? Mostly I make my own. I try to make
a=20
> > distinction between ordinary phtography using a pin hole instead of a
=
> > lens and=20
> > "pinhole photography", those types of images and approaches that are =
> > only=20
> > possible with a pinhole. </P>
> > <P>6 What type of pin-hole photographs do you like to take? =
> > Experiements with=20
> > ultra wide angle, ultra closeup, ultra long exposures, placement of =
> > the film=20
> > at odd angles to the aperture, using naturally occuring apertures. I =
> > did a=20
> > very successful series of images using one of the holes in a soda =
> > cracker as a=20
> > pinhole. </P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>7 How long have you been using pin-hole? about 4 years.</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>8 Do you use it commercially or purely for enjoyment or both? Just
=
> > for=20
> > me.</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>9 Why do you prefer this format to other more conventional =
> > photography=20
> > formats? There is less apparatus between me and the image, and my =
> > decisions=20
> > are more central to the process rather than being at the mercy of =
> > lenses,=20
> > shutters, etc.</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>10 Why do you feel the revival of pin-hole in the mid 1960s =
> > happened? Don't=20
> > know. Where you a part of this movement? No.</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>11 Do you feel the attraction with pin-hole is an artistic desire =
> > to get=20
> > back to basics, and have more control over a photo? Yes. It's a =
> > dramatically=20
> > more 'personal" art.</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>12 Do you feel you are re-inventing creativity by going back to the
=
> > first=20
> > camera and using it in a new way? No. </P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>13 Do you feel this movement towards pin-hole in photography may be
=
> >
> > happening because of the move into digital i.e Because we seem to be =
> > offered=20
> > with digital "infinite possibilities" and a predictable, efficient =
> > result, and=20
> > pin-hole offers a much more unexpected and original result? I don't =
> > think so.=20
> > More and more pinhole shooters are printing digitally, including
=
> > me.=20
> > </P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>14 What do you feel about the move into digital technology in =
> > photography=20
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> > order to=20
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> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>15 In a few words describe why you love pin-hole.... My images are
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> > a more=20
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=
> > and an=20
> > image. With the cracker series, all I had was a cardboard box =
> > with a=20
> > piece of photographic paper taped inside and a cracker stuck over a =
> > hole=20
> > on the other side with peanut butter, and light. And yet I =
> > could=20
> > make art. With pinhole, I never ask light to do anything it wouldn't =
> > do=20
> > spontaneously. </P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>If you have any further advice on pin-hole information in areas not
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> > covered=20
> > by my questions I would appreciate any extra view points you may be =
> > able to=20
> > pass on.</P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>THANKYOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING PART IN MY WORK. IT IS MUCH =
> > APPRECIATED &=20
> > I VALUE YOUR THOUGHTS & OPINIONS. Rachel Mallon.<BR></P>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > From: "Chris" <christo@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
> > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:05:24 -0600
> > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Encoding
> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> >
> > Is there any way to remove the encoding I get in the digest messages?
I'm
> > using Outlook 98 with Windows 98. I get a lot of <div> <br>
<blockquote>
> > etc. in many of the messages. Can I change settings? Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:52:41 -0800
> > From: Richard Heather <rheather@slonet.org>
> > Organization: Richard Heather Photography
> > To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Year print swap
> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> >
> > Mine are in the mail also. 3 different prints on postcard stock. The
> > prints coming in are wonderful.
> > Thanx.
> > Richard Heather
> >
> > Jan Kapoor wrote:
> >
> > > I am also enjoying this swap very much. Yesterday there were 4 images
> > > in the mail; today, another 2. I wish it would go on forever!
> > >
> > > Happy New Year and great pinholing in 2002--
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:02:20 +0000
> > From: holtsg@duke.usask.ca
> > To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing ortho
> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > When processing ortho film for pinhole the objective is usually to
obtain
> a normal continuous tone negative. This means one must drastically reduce
> the
> > contrast of ortho film to be useful for pinhole - although there is
> nothing stopping someone from making high contrast negatives on purpose.
> >
> > There doesn't appear to be a commerically made super low contrast
> developer to make continuous tone negatives from ortho film.
> >
> > One way to get a continuous tone neg from ortho film is to purposefully
> underdevelop the film - this limits contrast. This can be done by
diluting
> the
> > developer - Dektol, D76 almost any developer. The developer becomes
> exhausted before fully developing the negative limiting its contrast.
> >
> > Another way is to limit the activity of the developer by lowering its
pH.
> This limits the activity of the developer as well, but it does not exhaust
> it.
> > This usually provides a more evenly developed negative with better
> latitude, but it also dramatically decreases the films sensetivity.
> >
> > David Seomarko has formulated a good low pH developer called LC-1.
> >
> > The lines you talk about I think are what are referred to as Mackie
lines.
> They are the result of the bromide released from hightlights during
> > development restraining the development of adjacent areas.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 01:24:53PM -0800, James Noel wrote:
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:24:53 -0800
> > > From: James Noel <jim.noel@gcccd.net>
> > > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest,
> > > Vol 1 #562 - 13 msgs
> > > To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > >
> > > At 12:44 PM 12/18/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Using paper developer with Ortho Litho film.
> > > Since paper developers are more active and contrasty by their makeup,
> it
> > > makes more sense to use dilute film developer in order to obtain long
> scale
> > > negatives with this film. I believe the old wives tale about using
> dilute
> > > paper developer came from an article I read in a photography magazine
in
> > > the late 1930's or early forties which promoted such development.
> > >
> > > For many years I have used dilute filme developers, D-76 at 1+ 6 to
1+8
> is
> > > one example, or W2D2, a pyro developer, to produce beautiful long
scaled
> > > enlarged negatives.
> > >
> > > Paper developers cause a harsh contrast line between dense adjacent
> areas
> > > of density which is very unacceptable to me.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:43:37 -0200
> > From: Joao Ribeiro <jribeiro@greco.com.br>
> > To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Will paper work in 4x5 film holder?
> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> >
> > Just a suggestion, have you tried to fasten the paper with a scotch tape
> so the paper won't move inside of the holder?
> > Since we are working under safety light it won't be a problem working
this
> way.
> > Cheers
> > Joao
> >
> > Gregg Kemp wrote:
> >
> > > I've loaded paper in 4x5 film holders, and found it tends to wrinkle
up,
> because of its thickness. It can be done, but you may loose some paper
> trying to do it.
> > >
> > > Gregg
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeff Dilcher [mailto:root@hiddenworld.net]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:39 AM
> > > > To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Will paper work in 4x5 film
holder?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if 4x5 enlarging paper will fit exactly in
> > > > the sheet film holders?
> > > >
> > > > They should, but I haven't tried...
> > > >
> > > > -Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Andy Schmitt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why not? As long as you cut it the right side & put the
> > > > emulsion facing out
> > > > > ( 80) )
> > > > > it should be a very good method for holding it.
> > > > > andy
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 04:33:46 -0800 (PST)
> > From: George L Smyth <glsmyth@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing ortho
> > To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> >
> >
> > --- holtsg@duke.usask.ca wrote:
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > When processing ortho film for pinhole the objective is usually to
> obtain a
> > > normal continuous tone negative. This means one must drastically
reduce
> the
> > > contrast of ortho film to be useful for pinhole - although there is
> nothing
> > > stopping someone from making high contrast negatives on purpose.
> > >
> > > There doesn't appear to be a commerically made super low contrast
> developer
> > > to make continuous tone negatives from ortho film.
> >
> > I've used Dektol in the 1+10 to 1+20 dilution (depending upon the
scene).
> The
> > three images currently in the Alternative Processing Images section of
my
> > website shows examples of this. These are not pinhole images, but were
> created
> > through negatives that were made by projecting slides on halftone film
and
> > developing with dilute Dektol.
> >
> > Cheers-
> >
> > george
> >
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> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:55:04 -0200
> > From: Joao Ribeiro <jribeiro@greco.com.br>
> > To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing ortho
> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> >
> > Hi George,
> >
> > Recently I made a few tests with the ortho litho films I have.
> > I used kodalith, Arista and Agfa darkroom RA.
> > With the first 2 films, LC1 with the dilution recommended by Cor Breukel
> worked
> > fine (water 750 ml, Metol 3 g, Sodium sulfite 60 g, Hydroquinone 3g,
water
> to 1 l,
> > to use dilute 1:4 with water and develop for 6,5 min at 20 o C), Iso
rated
> is about
> > 1.
> > With the Agfa (and I suspect with all the RA films) the densities are
> still very
> > high. I am using for this film Ilford multigrade liquid paper developer
> > concentrated solution 50 ml to 4 l of water and I am getting pretty
good
> results,
> > times from 1,5 min to 4,5 min. depending on the density wanted, iso also
> about 1 at
> > 24 o C.
> > The 1,5 min development gave me a good neg. for gum.
> > Cheers
> > Joao
> >
> > George L Smyth wrote:
> >
> > > --- holtsg@duke.usask.ca wrote:
> > > > Hi:
> > > >
> > > > When processing ortho film for pinhole the objective is usually to
> obtain a
> > > > normal continuous tone negative. This means one must drastically
> reduce the
> > > > contrast of ortho film to be useful for pinhole - although there is
> nothing
> > > > stopping someone from making high contrast negatives on purpose.
> > > >
> > > > There doesn't appear to be a commerically made super low contrast
> developer
> > > > to make continuous tone negatives from ortho film.
> > >
> > > I've used Dektol in the 1+10 to 1+20 dilution (depending upon the
> scene). The
> > > three images currently in the Alternative Processing Images section of
> my
> > > website shows examples of this. These are not pinhole images, but
were
> created
> > > through negatives that were made by projecting slides on halftone film
> and
> > > developing with dilute Dektol.
> > >
> > > Cheers-
> > >
> > > george
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Handmade Photographic Images
> > > http://members.home.net/hmpi/
> > >
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> > >
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> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:59:53 -0200
> > From: Joao Ribeiro <jribeiro@greco.com.br>
> > To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing ortho
> > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> >
> > In time, I'd like to add that Gordon is using a Kodak film that I
believe
> is also RA.
> > So, if you have the ilford developer at hand and would like to compare
and
> report I'd
> > appreciate it.
> >
> > Best regards to all,
> >
> > Joao
> >
> >
> >
> >
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