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From: john arnison <johnarnison_at_domain.name.suppressed>
Date: Wed 17 Jan 2001 - 01:42:53 PST

I cant find my pass word and would like to be able to join in this
discussion.

All the best
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> 1. Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film packs & Pinholes...
(Andy Schmitt)
> 2. Re: Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film pa...
(Figurefoto@aol.com)
> 3. RE: Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film pa... (Andy
Schmitt)
> 4. Re: Over the razor's edge.. (deviprasad@zfree.co.nz)
> 5. New Pinhole Photo (Larry Fratkin)
> 6. Re: New Pinhole Photo (Kosinski Family)
> 7. Re: New Pinhole Photo (G.Penate)
> 8. Re: Re: Over the razor's edge.. (G.Penate)
> 9. A Lens? (Tom Miller)
> 10. Re: New Pinhole Photo (Larry Fratkin)
> 11. Re: A Lens? (Guy Glorieux)
> 12. Re: New Pinhole Photo (Mike Vande Bunt)
> 13. Re: A Lens? (Mike Vande Bunt)
>
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>Message: 1
>From: "Andy Schmitt" <aschmitt@warwick.net>
>To: "pinhole discussion list" <Pinhole-Discussion@pinhole.com>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:14:04 -0500
>Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600
film packs & Pinholes...
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>While helping Jennifer work out a pinhole camera using a box & 600 film I
>came up with the brain fart of using Velcro to attach the film pack to the
>PH camera. There seemed to be enough room (if carefully placed) to have
>Velcro & still be able to slide the pack in/out of the auto processor (read
>Polaroid camera).
>It works...
>Using the skinny part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" square where the
>pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a strip about 1/4" wide & an
>inch long on the rear of the pack between where the battery is exposed and
>the edge of the pack (on both sides).
>
>With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem holding the
>pack firmly against the camera....
>
>Of course I have already raced to Washington to Copyright, Patent, and
>Register this idea so no one else can do it... except you all !!
>Let me know how you make out...
>
>Have fun
>andy schmitt
>
> A Happy, Healthy & prolific New Year to you
> Andy Schmitt
>
> Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons
> All opinions expressed are mine...
> Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid
> www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose....
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>
>
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>Message: 2
>From: Figurefoto@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:21:38 EST
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid
600 film pa...
>To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
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>In a message dated 1/16/01 2:18:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>aschmitt@warwick.net writes:
>
>
>> Using the skinny part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" square where the
>> pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a strip about 1/4" wide & an
>> inch long on the rear of the pack between where the battery is exposed
and
>> the edge of the pack (on both sides).
>>
>> With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem holding the
>>
>
>I thought of trying this but i was afraid it would leak light,good job!!
>
> Harry
> Figurefoto.com
>
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><HTML>In a message dated 1/16/01 2:18:44 PM Pacific
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> aschmitt@warwick.net writes:
> 
> 
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Using the skinny
part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" square where the
> pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a  strip about 1/4"
wide & an
> inch long on the rear of the pack between where the battery is exposed
and
> the edge of the pack (on both sides).
> 
> With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem holding
the
> pack firmly against the camera....</BLOCKQUOTE>
> 
> I thought of trying this but i was afraid it would leak light,good
job!!
> 
> Harry 
> <A
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>Message: 3
>From: "Andy Schmitt" <aschmitt@warwick.net>
>To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid
600 film pa...
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:45:43 -0500
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
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>remember tho, you have to take the pack out of the camera & stick it in the
>"autopcessor" in the DARK...or it will leak light all over your pretty
>picture.. ;~ )
>andy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pinhole-discussion-admin@pinhole.com
>[mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@pinhole.com]On Behalf Of
Figurefoto@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:22 PM
> To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about
Polaroid
>600 film pa...
>
>
> In a message dated 1/16/01 2:18:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> aschmitt@warwick.net writes:
>
>
>
> Using the skinny part of the Velcro, I placed about a 1" square where
>the
> pull tab joins the film pack. There is also a strip about 1/4" wide &
>an
> inch long on the rear of the pack between where the battery is exposed
>and
> the edge of the pack (on both sides).
>
> With a 3 point attachment, the Velcro should have no problem holding
the
> pack firmly against the camera....
>
>
> I thought of trying this but i was afraid it would leak light,good job!!
>
> Harry
> Figurefoto.com
>
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> [pinhole-discussion] Late breaking discoveries about Polaroid 600 film =
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> pa... </DIV>color=3D#400040=20
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>2:18:44 PM Pacific=20
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>Message: 4
>From: deviprasad@zfree.co.nz
>To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:36:16 +1200
>Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Over the razor's edge..
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>Hi,
>I am a novice "pin-holer" and this is my first posting.
>
>I have tried the following idea. I "glued" three pieces of shaving razor
blade
>to form a triangular aperture -- the "pin-hole". By adjusting the three
pieces ,
>I got a small triangular aperture of the required pin-hole size.Guranteed
clean
>knife-edges !!!
>
>I used a magnifying glass to compare the razor "pin-hole" with a set of
auto-mechanics
>steel shims. I reckon my razor "pin-hole" is an equilateral hole with sides
about
>0.3 ~ 0.4 mm.
>
>The above assembly was mounted in a slotted lens cap of a 35mm SLR.
>
>My first picture, in bright sunlight, is such a "success" , that I am
encouraged
>to experiment further.I had to use a 20 sec exposure on 35 mm 100ASA colour
negative.
>
>
>Will put up the picture soon as I organise a web site.
>
>I look forward to your comments and suggestions
>
>Cheers !!!
>
>Devi Prasad
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>Advertise with ZFREE - to find out more click below
>http://www.zfree.co.nz/about-us/advert.html
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>From: "Larry Fratkin" <Larry@MrPinhole.com>
>To: "pinhole list" <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:39:32 -0800
>Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>Folks,
> I have my first laser pinhole picture published at
>http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html
>
>This was a laser drilled pinhole from Lenox Laser. The picture was my first
>shot on a set of tests I was doing to dial in the film/pinhole/camera
>combination. More to come.
>
>Larry
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 6
>From: "Kosinski Family" <zinski@telenet.net>
>To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:20:19 -0500
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>Larry writes:
>"I have my first laser pinhole picture published at
>http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html
>
>Pretty fine image, Larry. Was it as easy as it seems to use the laser
>pinhole?
>Jim K
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 7
>From: "G.Penate" <penate@home.com>
>To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:23:21 -0500
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry Fratkin" <Larry@MrPinhole.com>
>
>> Folks,
>> I have my first laser pinhole picture published at
>> http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html
>
>It looks as if it is a computer graphic generated image, very good Larry!!
>
>
>Guillermo
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 8
>From: "G.Penate" <penate@home.com>
>To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Over the razor's edge..
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:26:01 -0500
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <deviprasad@zfree.co.nz>
>
>> Hi,
>> I am a novice "pin-holer" and this is my first posting.
>>
>> I have tried the following idea. I "glued" three pieces of shaving
razor
>blade
>> to form a triangular aperture --
>
>That's an interesting idea, people have used blades to form slit, but this
>us may be a first.
>
>> My first picture, in bright sunlight, is such a "success" , that I am
>encouraged
>> to experiment further.I had to use a 20 sec exposure on 35 mm 100ASA
>colour negative.
>
>> I look forward to your comments and suggestions
>
>Look forward to seeing the image(s)
>
>Guillermo
>
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 9
>From: "Tom Miller" <twmiller@mr.net>
>To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:24:57 -0600
>Subject: [pinhole-discussion] A Lens?
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>Check the samples at www.dreamagon.com. They look a lot like zone
>plate images. Hard to believe its a lens.
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 10
>From: "Larry Fratkin" <Larry@MrPinhole.com>
>To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:06:59 -0800
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>Jim,
> It was exactly like using other pinholes. The exposure always ends up
>taking 1/2 to 1 more stop than my calculator shows - reciprocity? It came
in
>a nice plastic case with the size printed on it. The pinhole itself is
>mounted on a very sturdy ring.
>
>Larry
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kosinski Family <zinski@telenet.net>
>To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo
>
>
>>Larry writes:
>>"I have my first laser pinhole picture published at
>>http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html
>>
>>Pretty fine image, Larry. Was it as easy as it seems to use the laser
>>pinhole?
>>Jim K
>>
>>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:58:16 -0500
>From: Guy Glorieux <guy.glorieux@sympatico.ca>
>To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] A Lens?
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>
>
>Tom Miller wrote:
>
>> Check the samples at www.dreamagon.com. They look a lot like zone
>> plate images. Hard to believe its a lens.
>>
>
>Tom,
>
>I hope that you are not about to slip back into lens photography...
>-:))
>
>Some of the pictures on the gallery are really beautiful (although
>perhaps on the verge of beeing too much for my own particular taste),
>but I agree with you that there is something of the Zoneplate qualities
>in them. Then why would someone want to pay the prices shown (over 250
>Euros) when you can get a zoneplate for $15? Let's keep the secret well
>covered... -:))
>
>This said, I must confess that I recently purchased on eBay a vintage
>"Adon" large format telephoto lens which I have not yet fully tested
>(large format is no fun in sub-freezing weather) but which seems to have
>some of the similar soft focus properties to this lens. One of the neat
>feature of this lens is that it has a variable focal lens and a huuuuuge
>coverage so that it will probably fit on my 11x14 field camera once I
>get it all fixed up. But this is Out-of-topic for this group and
>belongs to the Large Format group. I never even mentionned it... -:))
>
>I wonder how others feel about that Dreamagon lens: gimmickrey or cool?
>Check
>http://www.dreamagon.com/sample.htm
>
>Best,
>
>Guy Glorieux
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:30:28 -0600
>From: Mike Vande Bunt <Mike.VandeBunt@mixcom.com>
>To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>It will be interesting to see how it performs in a "flare" situation.
>In theory, the walls of the pinhole will be perfectly smooth so
>the flare should be more regular (less random) than a traditional
>pinhole. How thin is the metal the pinhole was drilled in? (I ask
>this because the main reason for the "sanding a dimple" method
>of drilling a pinhole is to thin the metal so that the walls of the
>hole are as short as possible.)
>
>Mike Vande Bunt
>
>
>Larry Fratkin wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>> It was exactly like using other pinholes. The exposure always ends up
>> taking 1/2 to 1 more stop than my calculator shows - reciprocity? It came
in
>> a nice plastic case with the size printed on it. The pinhole itself is
>> mounted on a very sturdy ring.
>>
>> Larry
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kosinski Family <zinski@telenet.net>
>> To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Pinhole Photo
>>
>> >Larry writes:
>> >"I have my first laser pinhole picture published at
>> >http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotography/pinhole_photography.html
>> >
>> >Pretty fine image, Larry. Was it as easy as it seems to use the laser
>> >pinhole?
>> >Jim K
>> >
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
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>> >Pinhole-Discussion@pinhole.com
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>> >http://www.pinhole.com/discussion/
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>
>Message: 13
>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:24:44 -0600
>From: Mike Vande Bunt <Mike.VandeBunt@mixcom.com>
>To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] A Lens?
>Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
>
>The February 2001 issue of Shutterbug magazine has a review of the
>Dreamagon lens and some more sample photos. They look VERY
>much like zone plate images, but the exposute times are quite a bit
>shorter (so short that a Neutral Density filter may be needed in full
>sun). As a releable way to get specific artistic effect, it's great.
>BUT,
>it's an expensive lens compared to even a commercially produced
>zone plate. It also lacks the experimental quality that many pinholers
>consider to be at the heart of the pinhole process.
>
>(N.B.: The Dreamagon web site still may list a US distributor, but
>the distributor has gone ou of business. Photographers in the US
>will need to order the lens direct from Germany.)
>
>Mike Vande Bunt
>
>
>Tom Miller wrote:
>
>> Check the samples at www.dreamagon.com. They look a lot like zone
>> plate images. Hard to believe its a lens.
>>
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