Re: swap

Hello pinholers,

I would not like to annoy any more the members of the pinhole list but I
have a doubt about the correct transmission of my message of last tuesday.
By the fact, I got some problems on my PC and with my e-mail software. I'm
not sure my post has actually been sent to the list; what makes me think of
that problem is that I see numerous people answering to James's proposition
for a new print swap but I find none of them expresing any comments or
answers about the suggestions I made in my message. James asked us to
express ideas while we affirmed our will of participation in this new
swap...
It's why I beg your indulgence and allow myself to send you again my first
post, in order to be sure that it reaches all members of the list.
Sorry for the eventuality of a "double exposure" to my bad english!
Have a merry Christmas and thanks to all of you pinholers for the high
quality and the nice open mind (...open "bodily orifices" seem to find their
way too...) of this list
Pinholing cheers from France
Jean

Original message from Jean Daubas was sent to the list on :
Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:27 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] new Print swap

> Hello James and all pinhole swappers !
>
> When I started my PC this morning, I wanted to post a message about
> launching a new print swap since the last one was some months ago now...
> What a surprise when, reading the posts arrived during the night, I
> discovered James' mailing and his intention of organizing a new print swap
!
> Coincidence or overseas telepathy ?
> I've been lucky participating in the 2 previous Pinhole print swaps : the
> first one already organised by James in 1999 (14 swappers) and the Zero
2000
> Print Swap which i myself coordinated in the spring of this year (18
> swappers, several among us were already present in the 1st print swap).
> The 2 swaps have been wonderful experiences for me; the pleasure of
opening
> your mail-box and finding envelopes coming from various countries , the
> surprise of opening these envelopes and discovering pictures and words
from
> people you don't know... Pleasure of sending one of of my own pictures to
> everybody !
> And after, pleasure of finding a way of keeping and enjoying this
collection
> of pictures and letters ( I manufactured large albums for each of the
swaps)
> !
> Now, James, you ask us some ideas... So, I would like to express comments
> originated by my 2 first experiences.
>
> - 1 - The first Print Swap was a " no imposed subject" swap and the
second
> one was a "imposed camera" (Zero 2000) print swap. I personnaly think
that,
> if we are going to repeat swaps on a regular basis (i.e. 2 or 3 by year)
it
> would be better to define a "subject", which gives some coherence ; of
> course, this "subject" has to be broad enough to respect every swapper's
> freedom and also to obtain a collection showing the diversity of ways to
> express a subject by pinhole pictures !
>
> - 2 - The other comment is maybe more personal and is about the number of
> prints : I must say that 1 only picture has been for me frustrating; I
mean
> that I had difficulties to choose a single picture to send to the
swappers.
> The prints I sent were always belonging to series and I felt frustrated to
> "reduce" my work to a one picture only ! I was not alone in this case
since
> I noticed that some of the swappers did not send the same pictures to all
> swappers, which mean they did not want to make a single selection ! Of
> course this depends on the way everybody works and I would not allow
myself
> to express any judgment; I only know that, for myself, pinhole pictures
> always belong to a kind of "continuous work" since for me pinhole
> photography is a slow process used to keep traces and to express duration
> and depht of vision upon apparences. It's why a single picture has just a
> little meaning for me.
> Is it possible to imagine a Print swap in which we would send a small
serie
> of 3 pictures for example ?
> It is just a question about which I would like everybody to express; of
> course I am perfectly aware of the difficulties arised by such a
proposition
> : a lot of time and of course the economical cost of 3 prints instead of 1
> ( I am very sensible to these problems since I go on with traditional FB
> paper darkroom work, which is time consuming and costly). I just wanted to
> express my "frustration" about the "1- picture" swaps. All comments are
> welcome since I cannot make a clear opinion about that ...
>
> So, I am ready to sign for the next print swap and you can count on my
> participation.
> If I had been the first to express the intention of launching a new swap,I
> would probably have suggested a subject as self- portrait (I presume
nearly
> each of us photographers keep a trace of ourselves from time to time on
our
> pictures). self portraiture seems to be a "not-too-narrow" subject since
> there are so many ways to be "present" in a picture.
> All Comments about this idea are welcome !
>
>
> Please apologize for my approximate use of English !
>
> I'm eager to read your opinions and suggestions ! Thanks you, James, for
> organizing the next swap and tell us if we can help you.
> All pinholers, have a nice Christmas and a great new pinholing century
!!!
> Kisses from France
> Jean
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Kellar" <james@kellar.com>
> To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:51 AM
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] December Mailing
>
>
> > I would also like to announce that I will be organizing a print swap in
> the
> > up coming year. If your interested in participating start sending me
your
> > ideas.
> >
> > Go out a take a pinhole photo.
> >
> > James
> >
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kellar" <pinhole@jameskellar.com>
To: <pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] swap

> Hi all,
>
> It sounds like a lot of folks are interested in a print swap. I'm going to
> wait until after the holidays to do more work on it and I'll let you know
in
> a week or two. Also I have gotten a few messages on the subject to my old
> email address, If you could make sure to use my new address which is
> pinhole@jameskellar.com.
>
> Thanks and a happy holidays to you all.
>
> James
Received on Fri Dec 22 04:22:21 2000