RE: Carbon mailing list?

I don't have any personal fascination with list serves, though I do
like the simplicity in some respects. That depends of course on who
is contributing.

My opinion is that there should be no conflict between the carbon
forum on B&S and an independent forum. But I do think it important to
recognize that the commercial interests of B&S and the interests of
the greater carbon community to keep this process alive are not one
and the same.

Sandy

At 7:37 PM -0600 4/4/08, Richard Sullivan wrote:
>Just to set the record straight. I started my forum primarily because I
>needed to have a modern up to date support mechanism for customers. The
>behind the scene controls available on a forum like Invision PowerBoard are
>pretty amazing. Listserve is good for some things but not very good for
>support. As we grow we will be having online classes similar to the gum
>classes we did a few years ago on the old board we had. Listserve cannot
>really function in real time with messaging etc. My board was never intended
>to kill the carbon list, though at the time I set up the board, there was
>very little activity on the list, and yes, I figured there would be some
>impact.
>
>I am not sure why the fascination with Listserve. Set up Powerboard or
>Vbulletin and those who want the msgs via email can set that up in their
>profile and it will look just like a Listserve system. Having a separate
>website is clumsy at best, and you will spend as much setting up a gallery
>that people can post to as you will spend on a forum board.
>
>--Dick
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-carbon@spitbite.org [mailto:owner-carbon@spitbite.org] On Behalf
>Of Sandy King
>Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:05 PM
>To: carbon@spitbite.org
>Subject: Re: [carbon] Carbon mailing list?
>
>Hi Eric,
>
>So what do you think about David's offer to set up a web site from his
>place.
>
>I like the idea of keeping the list server technology, but we might
>benefit from a web site as well.
>
>Perhaps we could talk by phone about this. I really appreciate the
>fact that you have kept this site alive and hope to have your
>cooperation on any further moves.
>
>Best,
>
>Sandy
>
>
>
>
>At 10:41 PM -0800 4/3/08, Eric S. Theise wrote:
>>Sandy King writes:
>>> The beauty of the carbon list is that it is free from commercial use.
>>> Is there any way we might transfer the list and archives to another
>>> venue?
>>>
>>> I would really like to see a carbon list or web site functioning
>>> outside of any commercial interests.
>>
>>Well, this list/this venue, could be/could have been, quite a lot
>>of things. It was surprising to me that Mr. Sullivan could pied-piper
>>the carbon printing community away from the list with his forum so
>>easily, and, frankly, it was surreal when he addressed me abstractly
>>as the "present owner of this system" last May.
>>
>>Hello, you know me, I am easily ascertained, my name is "Eric".
>>
>>And color me naive and idealistic, but the owners of this system
>>are the active posters (jury's out on the lurkers). Me, I am a
>>technical facilitator, making sure that the messages get through
>>and that the spam does not; that archives are available and searchable
>>24/7; and that when people ask for a feature, I assess its feasibility
>>and implement accordingly.
>>
>>I asked for ideas and submissions; Halvor Bjorngard and Katayoun
>>Dowlatshahi contributed pdfs for a "carbon library", that was it.
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>There's no reason to close the list if it is useful to the community,
>>but: "use or lose it". If people see [carbon] and groan in
>>anticipation, I want no part of it, and we are close to this.
>>
>>Sloganeering from Howard Rheingold, the Whole Earth Review, and The
>>WELL, a decade or more ago:
>>
>> "what it is is up to us."
>>
>>So it goes with [carbon].
>>
>>--Eric
>>
>>P.S.
>>
>>> We are about to open an web site for S&S
>>> holders and I would like to save the archives on that site.
>>
>>I am ignorant; "S&S holders", I don't know what this means.
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