RE: Carbon mailing list?

Just to set the record straight. I started my forum primarily because I
needed to have a modern up to date support mechanism for customers. The
behind the scene controls available on a forum like Invision PowerBoard are
pretty amazing. Listserve is good for some things but not very good for
support. As we grow we will be having online classes similar to the gum
classes we did a few years ago on the old board we had. Listserve cannot
really function in real time with messaging etc. My board was never intended
to kill the carbon list, though at the time I set up the board, there was
very little activity on the list, and yes, I figured there would be some
impact.

I am not sure why the fascination with Listserve. Set up Powerboard or
Vbulletin and those who want the msgs via email can set that up in their
profile and it will look just like a Listserve system. Having a separate
website is clumsy at best, and you will spend as much setting up a gallery
that people can post to as you will spend on a forum board.

--Dick

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-carbon@spitbite.org [mailto:owner-carbon@spitbite.org] On Behalf
Of Sandy King
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:05 PM
To: carbon@spitbite.org
Subject: Re: [carbon] Carbon mailing list?

Hi Eric,

So what do you think about David's offer to set up a web site from his
place.

I like the idea of keeping the list server technology, but we might
benefit from a web site as well.

Perhaps we could talk by phone about this. I really appreciate the
fact that you have kept this site alive and hope to have your
cooperation on any further moves.

Best,

Sandy

At 10:41 PM -0800 4/3/08, Eric S. Theise wrote:
>Sandy King writes:
>> The beauty of the carbon list is that it is free from commercial use.
>> Is there any way we might transfer the list and archives to another
>> venue?
>>
>> I would really like to see a carbon list or web site functioning
>> outside of any commercial interests.
>
>Well, this list/this venue, could be/could have been, quite a lot
>of things. It was surprising to me that Mr. Sullivan could pied-piper
>the carbon printing community away from the list with his forum so
>easily, and, frankly, it was surreal when he addressed me abstractly
>as the "present owner of this system" last May.
>
>Hello, you know me, I am easily ascertained, my name is "Eric".
>
>And color me naive and idealistic, but the owners of this system
>are the active posters (jury's out on the lurkers). Me, I am a
>technical facilitator, making sure that the messages get through
>and that the spam does not; that archives are available and searchable
>24/7; and that when people ask for a feature, I assess its feasibility
>and implement accordingly.
>
>I asked for ideas and submissions; Halvor Bjorngard and Katayoun
>Dowlatshahi contributed pdfs for a "carbon library", that was it.
>
>Look:
>
>There's no reason to close the list if it is useful to the community,
>but: "use or lose it". If people see [carbon] and groan in
>anticipation, I want no part of it, and we are close to this.
>
>Sloganeering from Howard Rheingold, the Whole Earth Review, and The
>WELL, a decade or more ago:
>
> "what it is is up to us."
>
>So it goes with [carbon].
>
>--Eric
>
>P.S.
>
>> We are about to open an web site for S&S
>> holders and I would like to save the archives on that site.
>
>I am ignorant; "S&S holders", I don't know what this means.
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