RE: My book -- finally!

Loris,

I guess one could add something to the glop to give the matte, but in
my case it is purely a function of the pigment.

For example, one of my favorite colorants is a lampblack pigment in
aqueous dispersion that I buy from Sherwin Williams (a paint store)
in a gallon container. When used by itself this pigments gives a
tissue that makes images with a very nice sheen, but not gloss. If I
mix in umber colorant (also aqueous dispersion in glycol) the tissues
starts to lose sheen. By the time the mix is 1:1 it is a fairly matte
tissue.

A tissue made from the Black Cat carbon pigment ink gives print with
very high gloss. The effect is very pronounced, almost startling.

BTW, in using the terms sheen, matte and gloss I am not talking about
what the tissue itself looks like, but the character of the final
image made from the tissue.

Sandy

At 4:35 PM +0200 3/23/07, Loris Medici wrote:
>Thanks Sandy...
>
>How one would do a matte surface tissue? Is it only the function of the
>pigment (darker -> more glossy, weaker -> less glossy - as I get from
>your message), or do you add something else into the glop?
>
>Regards,
>Loris.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
>Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:20 PM
>To: carbon@spitbite.org
>Subject: RE: [carbon] My book -- finally!
>
>
>Yes, but bear in mind that the characteristics I describe would only
>apply to this specific carbon tissue formula, which tends to produce
>a final print with a matte rather than sheen surface. But for this
>image the result was as follows.
>
>1. Fixed out Kodak Polymax FD surface, double weight. There is a real
>glow to the print in the mid-tones and highlights.
>
>2. Arista single weight matte surface. Print has much less life, very
>little sparkle.
>
>3. Yupo. Print is flat dead.
>
>However, if using a tissue with a tendency toward a lot of gloss, say
>one made with just the Black Cat carbon pigment ink, a print on Yupo
>can look very nice.
>
>This is why I wrote that so much depends on the interaction between
>the tissue and the final support.
>
>Sandy
>
>
>
>At 4:07 PM +0200 3/23/07, Loris Medici wrote:
>>Dear Sandy,
>>
>>Can you please share your observations about the different final
>>supports you've tried for the same image? (I assume the tissue was same
>
>>for all prints...)
>>
>>BTW, congratulations Richard...
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Loris.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
>>Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 3:56 PM
>>To: carbon@spitbite.org
>>Subject: Re: [carbon] My book -- finally!
>>
>>
>>Congratulations on the book. Does it cover color?
>>
>>There is for sure no one way to make a carbon print. In general I find
>>that the process is much cleaner and less subject to error when
>>synthetic surfaces are used for both the tissue and the final support.
>>
>> From the point of view of final image appearance so much depends on
>>the tissue itself, and how it interacts with the final support. For
>>example, images from some tissues look much richer on glossy type fixed
>
>>out papers, while others like a more matte or flat look. I made three
>>duplicate images several days ago, placing each on different final
>>support, two on different fixed out photo papers and one on Yupo. The
>>difference in appearance of the three images is quite striking.
>>
>>Sandy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 12:10 PM -0600 3/22/07, Richard Sullivan wrote:
>>>As many of you know, I have been working on a book on carbon printing.
>
>>>It's been a struggle and a joy. Every time we get to the point where
>>>we think we have something down pat, we discover a new and better way
>>>to do it! We meaning my faithful crew known as the Carbon Study Group:
>
>>>myself, Gordon mark, Howard Efner, Carol Becvarik, and a few
>>>occasional helpers who drop by. A big debt is owed to them, especially
>
>>>when they come in excited about making some prints and I suggest they
>>>try one of my ideas and a days work goes in the crapper!
>>>
>>>The book is printed in color and is well illustrated which helps quite
>
>>>a bit. As we have all learned over the years on this List, there is no
>
>>>set way to make a carbon print. This is one of the joys and also one
>>>of the frustrations of the process, so I beg a bit of tolerance on
>>>this. As the carbon renaissance matures, we will perhaps stabilize
>>>some of the procedures. To cover every way a print might be made would
>
>>>be an overwhelming a project and certainly bewildering to an novice
>>>printer.
>>>
>>>I have rudimentary website up at www.carbonprinting.com and a link to
>>>some sample pages.
>>>
>>>Enjoy
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