Re: acetone

I am not Dick, but I have seen many vintage carbon prints that have a
lot of relief. If you go to the Harry Ransom Center in Austin at the
Univesity of Texas you will see a lot of them. Many are form the
mid-19th century. You will also see many that don't have relief.

Relief is defintely not a modern phenomenon, but a very natural part
of printing in carbon in a certain way.

Tri-Color carbro prints of the 1940s and 50s simply knock you off
your socks with the amount of relief.

In this as in so many other the going word seems to be, "if I have
not seen it, it is not so."

Sandy

At 7:26 PM -0800 12/22/06, Eric Scott wrote:
>Dick,
>
>Have you seen any older carbons, say 1800's , that had significant
>relief? I viewed quite a few naked carbons from the 1800's at the
>SFMOMA. I held them in my hands and inspected them closely. No
>relief. The book "Keepers of the Light" talks about how to identify
>older carbons. No talk of relief. Apparently Crawford hasn't seen
>any either. I'm wondering if making carbons with significant relief
>is a recent phenomenon. To me, if transferring to FOP, relief
>almost becomes a necessity. Otherwise you've got a print that's
>virtually indistinguishable from a silver print. At that point one
>might ask: "What's the point?". From what I understand, carbon
>came about as a result of silver prints fading noticeably in high
>pollution areas, not because folks were looking for something that
>was aesthetically more pleasing than a silver print. Of course what
>I say does not apply when transferring to watercolor paper. Even
>though such prints resemble platinum/palladium prints, looking at
>them fairly closely reveals quite clearly that they're something
>different.
>
>Eric.
>
>On Dec 22, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Richard Sullivan wrote:
>
>>
>> High relief is an issue of personal taste. I think it is somewhat like
>>brush marks on a pt print. I think it is an interesting and novel idea for
>>portfolio prints, but once under glass in a frame, it is not that visible. I
>>am sort of neutral on the subject. I think it would be nice for some prints
>>and immaterial for others.
>>
>> --Dick
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